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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Jul 7, 2009 7:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pink Floyd vs. The Grateful Dead

I really like Floyd, but I don't think they offered anything close to the sonic variety of the Dead. Plus, I always thought they took themselves a little too seriously.

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Jul 7, 2009 7:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pink Floyd vs. The Grateful Dead

I'll reply to you, skuzzlebutt, just for fun.

I have one piece of rock and roll "artwork" on the wall in the room where I sleep.

Oh, there's plenty in the hallway, but all that I consider
Fluxus wallpaper.

In my room, the one piece, it's in a rusting metal frame, I should probably replace, behind dusty cobwebbed glass (TMI), is an empty sleeve of the UK import copy of The Piper at the Gates of Dawn (1967).

Not to say the Grateful Dead don't have tons of eye-catching art (particularly imho, their '66-'68 stuff) and I used to hang the posters up when I was a teenager,

But jeesh, I'm 55 years old... people would look at me pretty weird if I had Dead pics up on the wall!

The only things I would ever display now of theirs, if I had them - and no single human being ought to - would be either the Uncle Sam hat, the sharktooth necklace or the purple paisley turtleneck.

Anything else, stays on the shelf out of site.

But that first PF album cover... that's cool man, with a capital "c"...

see what I mean?

No?

er...uh..oh...um


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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Jul 8, 2009 5:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pink Floyd vs. The Grateful Dead

I used to have a picture of Bela Lugosi in my bathroom, but I still like the Dead better than Floyd.

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Jul 8, 2009 6:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pink Floyd vs. The Grateful Dead

Bela in the bathroom - now that's class!

And I prefer the Dead over the Floyd too, by a country mile.

We did have a poster of Zappa taking a crappa tacked up in our Victorian flat's W.C. though...

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jul 8, 2009 11:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pink Floyd vs. The Grateful Dead

Where was that Victorian flat? Don't tell me it was on the Oakland/Berkeley border....

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Jul 8, 2009 10:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pink Floyd vs. The Grateful Dead

1514 Page St., around the corner from Magnolia Thunderussy's Cafe at Haight Masonic (catty corner from Reckless records, across from Uganda Liquors, catty corner from Sundance Incense Trading Co., across the Street from Pipe Dreams, 8,000 miles from Katmandu.)

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jul 7, 2009 8:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pink Floyd vs. The Grateful Dead

Fluxus - who are you? Beck's grandfather?

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Jul 7, 2009 10:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pink Floyd vs. The Grateful Dead

¬°Que Onda Guero!

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Jul 8, 2009 5:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pink Floyd vs. The Grateful Dead

Beck?

You mean that guy who did "Devil's Haircut"? (great song, as is "New Pollution" - both songs on his debut album Odelay - 1996)

Did Beck sing something about Fluxus?
Wait'll I get my talons on that whippersnapper grandson o'mine!

I've only seen fluxus at an exhibition in S.F.'s MOMA '93 or so, that featured ephemeral items like 150 empty boxes of Quaker Oats Crunchy Granola behind plexiglass...

Too bad the artist didn't eat a less healthy cereal (with flashier box graphics I mean) such as Freakies or Count Chocula.
(Quaker's Granola was actually heavily pre-sweetened).

But then, those cartoon character candy coated cereals changed the box graphics constantly and the blandness of the display wouldn't have been as funny in it's own way;
row after row of the same design... why would anyone have saved so many empty boxes unless to show how boring the commercial health food packaging was, while irresistable taste-wise at the same time?

What is Fluxus?

I think, anything that hasn't been recycled/altered, used or unused, made or unmade into something else...
saved from common, everyday stuff.

One item was a set of oil paint tubes given to John Lennon, that had never been used... (donated by Yoko) - simultaneously showing that he never bothered to do anything with the paint set, and that he was a regifter who forgot to regift this particular item (I keed!).
There was an entire loft reconstructed (if it was eevn ever dismantled) and displayed behind plexiglass so you could only look in from a distance...
none of the exhibit, except for some Yoko and Warhol (?) films on video were interactive in any way.

So to recount, Fluxus is what you don't make it, unlike Dada - such as Marcel DuChamp's bicycle tire, because that was turned into something else - a sculpture.


So my hallway has free posters I got from Tower Records (Louis Armstrong, OuterLimits video promo), empty cigerrette packs (50 or so Marlboro fliptops that Cyril smoked), an empty TV dinner box commemoritive that was designed to look like a classic TV dinner box (but doesn't really look like one), an It's It container, a Kinks "Schoolboys in Disgrace poster that came out (a giveaway) long after the original release, Flamin Groovies single and LP cover prototypes, comic book promo posters attempting to recreate the "Silver Age" (but missing by a mile, though they look cool) and oh, not a single Grateful Dead pic or poster.

Oops!




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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Jul 8, 2009 8:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pink Floyd vs. The Grateful Dead

I thought "Fluxus" was a book by Henry Miller...?

And a friend of mine has a "Schoolboys In Disgrace" tattoo!...

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jul 8, 2009 8:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pink Floyd vs. The Grateful Dead

Al Hansen (?), Beck's grandfather, is considered one of the "founders" of the Fluxus movement. I saw an exhibition in Prague around '94 with a bunch of his stuff, Nam June Paik (sp?), Yoko, and others. Some of it was, in my opinion, crap and some was pretty cool and thought provoking.

Sexus, Plexus and Nexus is the Miller trilogy. Obscenity trials and the First Amendment. HOWL and the like in the courtrooms. Where are you Lenny Bruce? If ever in Big Sur, check out the library. Lots of cool stuff happens there.
http://www.henrymiller.org/events.html

Floyd - studio. Dead - live.

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Jul 8, 2009 5:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pink Floyd vs. The Grateful Dead

Did you know on Beck's birth certificate, it's spelled "Bek?" Buncha crazy artists in that family, I tell ya...

And I know the Miller trilogy well, I was just having fun imagining if there was a 4th book in the series, what might it be called...? ;-)

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jul 8, 2009 5:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pink Floyd vs. The Grateful Dead

I did not know re Beck but figured you were goofing on the Miller thing - I just like to use any chance I get to plug the library. Magnus Toren runs the place and does a great job of keeping the Miller spirit alive there under the redwoods.

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